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                     Table of Contents for Part  4
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  13. Books

     13.1 ISB Numbers on the Net
     13.2 What German Dictionaries are Available? (Deutsch-Deutsch!)
     13.3 Which Books do German kids read?
     13.4 On-Line -- The Gutenberg Project
     13.5 Mail Ordering Books

  14. Audio / Video

     14.1 Different Video Norms!
     14.2 Movies
        14.2.1 Dubbing?!
        14.2.2 Contacts
     14.3 Mail Ordering
        14.3.1 Audio / Music
        14.3.2 Video Tapes

  15. Foreign Affairs; Consulates / Embassies

     15.1 General Remarks on the Embassies
     15.2 Foreign Embassies in the FRG
     15.3 Embassies and Consulates General of the FRG abroad
     15.4 Other Foreign Affairs Institutions

  16. Goethe Institutes

  17. Educational System

     17.1 Schools
        17.1.1 The basic structure of the German school system
        17.1.2 Vacations
        17.1.3 International Schools in Germany
        17.1.4 German Schools Abroad
        17.1.5 Summer Schools for German Abroad
     17.2 Universities
        17.2.1 Statistics
        17.2.2 Listings, Rankings
        17.2.3 Studying at a German University; Exchange Programs
        17.2.4 Finding the Right One... (On-Line)
     17.3 Volkshochschulen
     17.4 Education-Relevant Addresses




  13.

  Books

  In Germany, the price for a book is set by the publisher and all
  retail stores are required to sell the book at that price, a
  regulation that is under heavy attack from the European Union right
  now. As a consequence, there is little point in shopping around for a
  good bargain on a book. The only books that you can buy at a discount
  in Germany are damaged books, even though it often takes an expert to
  see what exactly the damage is.

  The Preisbindung, as this practice is called in German, means in
  particular that the only differences in price between `online
  booksellers' come from their differing fees for shipping and
  handling, not the books themselves.1999-04

  13.1.

  ISB Numbers on the Net

  You can find all the books in print in Germany at Verzeichnis
  lieferbarer  Buecher <http://www.vlb.de/>, a site maintained by the
  association of German booksellers.

  You can also try the search engines of any of the `online
  booksellers'; their search results usually contain the ISBN, among
  other things.1999-04

  13.2.  What German Dictionaries are Available? (Deutsch-Deutsch!)


  o  Der Brockhaus in einem Band: US$39.95 (US)

  o  Wahrig (Bertelsmann) US$48.95

  o  Wahrig DTV Woerterbuch (paperback) US$21.95

  o  Deutsches Woerterbuch von H. Paul (Niemayer) US$68.95

  o  Duden deutsches Universalwoerterbuch US$49.95

  o  Knaurs grosses Woerterbuch der deutschen Sprache US$45.95 1995-4


  13.3.  Which Books do German kids read?

  Bring up any of these book titles in conversation with a German under
  the age of 40, and you have a sure-fire way to go down the road to
  nostalgia ...

  o  by Ottfried Preussler

  o  Die kleine Hexe

  o  Das kleine Gespenst

  o  Der starke Wanja

  o  Krabat


  o  Der kleine Wassermann

  o  by Max Kruse

  o  Urmel aus dem Eis (and more Urmel books)

  o  by Michael Ende

  o  Jim Knopf und Lukas, der Lokomotivfuehrer

  o  Jim Knopf und die Wilde 13

  o  Die unendliche Geschichte

  o  Momo

  o  Der satanarchaeoluegenialalkohoellische Wunschpunsch

  o  by Erich Kaestner

  o  Das fliegende Klassenzimmer

  o  Emil und die Detektive

  o  Puenktchen und Anton

  o  der kleine Mann

  o  by Angela Sommer-Bodenburg <http://www.AngelaSommer-Bodenburg.com>
     1998-04

  o  Der kleine Vampir 1994-10



  13.4.  On-Line -- The Gutenberg Project


  The German Branch <http://www.gutenberg.aol.de/> of the Gutenberg
  Project <http://www.gutenberg.net/> has now gone far beyond offering
  just fairy tales.  For a guide to that and other German online books,
  you might want to check out Jim Campbell's
  <http://www.lib.virginia.edu/wess/germtext.html> page. 1998-01


  Also try going to the Human Language Resources page
  <http://www.willamette.edu/~tjones/Language-Page.html> and to their
  German listings. <http://www.willamette.edu/~tjones/languages/German-
  page.html>


  13.5.

  Mail Ordering Books

  The FU Berlin maintains a list of German publishing companies and
  bookstores <http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/verlage.html>,
  including many mail-order bookstores.


  Some of the more popular mail-order bookstores are

  o  Amazon.de <http://www.amazon.de/>, the German branch of amazon.com
     <http://www.amazon.com/>,


  o  Bertelsmann Online <http://www.bol.de/>, the online store of the
     largest German publishing company,

  o  Buch.de <http://www.buch.de/>, Aachener Buchversand,

  o  Buecher.de <http://www.buecher.de/>.  1999-04

  Here is a list of bookstores and publishing companies, both in Germany
  and abroad, that somehow deal with German books:

     The German Information Center <http://langlab.uta.edu/lang-
        pages/GIC.html>
        (look up the address in `the newspapers section'.)  1995-3


      Der Buchwurm
        PO Box 268, Templeton, CA 93465, tel +1(805)238-2353, fax
        +1(805)238-9523

        German Books, Music Tapes, CD's, Journal Subscriptions, etc.
        1994-6


     Mary S. Rosenberg, Inc.
        1841 Broadway, New York, NY 10023, tel +1(212)307-7733, fax
        +1(718)857-7163

        Mail order, but no credit cards! However, checks do not need to
        clear your bank before they send merchandise.  1994-6


     Schoenhof's Foreign Books
        76A Mount Auburn Street, Cambridge, MA  02138, tel
        +1(617)547-8855, fax +1(617)547-8551

        Accepts Visa, MC, and AMEX. French, German, Italian, and Spanish
        books 1994-6


     Adler's Foreign Books, Inc.
        8220 N. Christiana Ave, Skokie, Illinois 60076, tel
        +1(800)ADLERS-1

        Accepts major credit cards, no current catalogue!  1994-6


     Buch-Bruecke
        96 Sweet Road, Ballston Lake, NY 12019, tel/fax +1(518)399-6516

        They have a very good selection of German language books,
        videos, cassette tapes, CD's, and magazines, at reasonable
        prices. A catalog is available. 1994-7


     International Book Import Service, Inc.
        2995 Wall Triana Highway, Suite B4, Huntsville, Alabama
        35824-1532, tel +1(800)277-IBIS fax +1(205)464-0071 1996-03
        1995-4


     Continental Book Company
        80-00 Cooper Avenue, Bldg. #29, Glendale, NY 11385 1994-6


     Mail order Kaiser
        Postfach 401209, 80712 Muenchen, Germany, tel +49(89)362001
        Mail order bookstore in Germany. Delivery worldwide at German
        domestic prices. Monthly newsletters. 1994-6


     ATS (Associated Technical Services)
        855 Bloomfield Ave., Glen Ridge, NJ 07028

        Technical Dictionaries 1994-6


     2001
        Ferdinand-Porsche-Str. 39, Postfach 61 06 37, 60348
        Frankfurt/Main, tel +49(69)4208000, fax +49(69)415004


        or:


        Kantstr. 41, 10625 Berlin 12, tel +49(30)3125017

        They deliver only to European countries. A Bill will be included
        on delivery. The value of an order to abroad must be above 50
        DM. Only books are delivered abroad, no CD's, tapes or records.
        1994-6


     Wissenschaftliche Buchgesellschaft
        Hindenburgstrasse 40, Postfach 11 15 53, 64230 Darmstadt,
        Germany, tel +49(6151)33080, fax +49 6151 314128 1994-6


     Carl Hanser Verlag
        Postfach 86 04 20, 81631 Muenchen

        Take major credit cars, and offer books from BASIC programming
        to Object-Oriented methods. Nice little catalog - these are the
        distinctive bright red books with blue trim.  1994-6


     Die Weisse Rose
        Rozengracht 166, Amsterdam, The Netherlands, tel
        +31(20)638-3959, Opening hours: Tue-Fri 10-18, Sat 11-17 1994-6


     Deutsches Komitee fuer elektronische Buecher
        (German Electronic Book Committee GEBC), Bertelsmann Electronic
        Publishing, fax +49(89)43189-737 1994-7


     Bibliographisches Institut & F.A. Brockhaus AG
        fax +49-621-3901-389 www http://hyperg.tu-
        graz.ac.at/FE06933E/A0x811b9908_0x000b835a <http://hyperg.tu-
        graz.ac.at:80/FE06933E/A0x811b9908_0x000b835a/> 1994-7


     Langenscheidt KG
        fax +49-89-36896-258 1994-7


     dtv (Deutscher Taschenbuch-Verlag)
        Friedrichstrasse 1a, 80801 Muenchen 1994-7


     Fischer Taschenbuch Verlag
        Hedderichstrasse 114, 60596 Frankfurt/Main 1994-7

     Suhrkamp Verlag
        Lindenstrasse 29-35, Postfach 10 19 45, 60325 Frankfurt/Main
        1994-7


     Verlag Philipp Reclam jun. GmbH
        Postfach 1349, 71254 Ditzingen 1994-7


     Verlag R.Piper GmbH & Co. KG
        Georgenstrasse 4, 80799 Muenchen 1994-7


     Diogenes Verlag AG
        Sprecherstrasse 8, CH-8032 Zuerich 1994-7






  14.  Audio / Video

  How to convert between Norms, how to get tapes, etc.


  14.1.  Different Video Norms!

  PAL  videotapes (as used in Germany) will not display properly
  using an NTSC (used in, eg, USA) based VCR and vice-versa.


  There are services where video conversion from any  to any other
   can be made for a fee (VHS, VHS-C and 8 mm types of cassettes.)
  This will allow playback of videotapes made overseas using US TV's and
  VCR's (PAL, SECAM -> NTSC) and vice-versa (NTSC -> PAL, SECAM, etc
  ...)



  It is also not too expensive to get a VCR which is able to play NTSC
  and PAL tapes.


  Only a few VCR's are able to record and play VHS tapes in NTSC and PAL
  (e.g. Panasonic AG-W1, about DM 5000). Cheaper VCR's are able to play
  different formats (NTSC, PAL, SECAM).



  Do it yourself


  With these setups you can transfer from NTSC to/from PAL at reasonable
  cost.  Don't expect studio quality though:

  o  Akai VS R110EM is a three system unit - PAL, NTSC, SECAM , costs
     about US$200 mailorder (smile video, nyc).

  o  AKAI VSX-560, *HiFi-Stereo*, tuner, features include NTSC playback
     on PAL TV, US$500 (mailorder from 47th St Photo)

  o  AIWA MG360S also 3 systems, costs about US$450 (mail order, j/R
     music world, nyc, +1(800)221-8180)


  o  Another VCR that is reasonably priced is sold by Radio-Shack. The
     VCR is available through special order only; and not all Radio
     Shack employees know that this machine even exists. If they don't,
     have them look in the current catalog for #16-706. The cost is
     US$600.  (You'll need a second VCR for conversions.)  1994-3


  Commercial conversion



  o  Mind Logic's rate <http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/convserv.html> is
     US$18 for the first two hours of conversion.  They also put
     together a technical overview of the subject.
     <http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/faq.html>  1996-04

  o  Hamilton-Smith

     Merrill, Ia, USA, email hamsmith@pionet.net, tel +1(712)938-2507
     1996-04


  o  International Video Conversion

     520 Harvest Lane, Raleigh, NC 27606-2217, tel +1(919)233-8689


     Fees: US$25 + 5 S&H, Price of a High Grade Cassette Included, 2hrs
     or less.  Delivery: Mailed back the next day, express shipping at
     request.  Payment: Check, Cash or Money Order mailed with tape.


  o  sasjrm@unx.sas.com does it for US$5 per hour + US$3 for the blank
     tape.  Formats: NTSC, PAL, NPAL, MPAL, SECAM, MSECAM

  o  Soffel VDO

     2250 Monroe St #263, Santa Clara, CA 95050, tel +1(408)985-2098


     US$20 per tape (up to 2h, each add. hour US$10). Tape, S&H
     included.  Mail only, next day shipping, overnight available.
     Check, cash, money order. Does: NTSC (8mm, Hi8, VHS) -> PAL (VHS)


  o  Video Conversion

     tel +1(614)833-6872/NTSC

     URL: http://www.videoconversion.com/

     Price: $9.99 + S/H for one VHS tape containing up to 3 hours of
     material



  o  Give your local shops a try! I found a Camera Shop that does PAL
     <-> NTCS conversions; a bit expensive, though (US$20/h).  But if
     you need something the very next day...  1994-1



  14.2.  Movies



  14.2.1.  Dubbing?!


  American (and other foreign) films are almost always dubbed into
  German when they're released in Germany.  Frequently, the title of the
  movie is changed, as well, so that it makes more sense in the German
  language.



  It is a recurring subject for discussion in soc.culture.german whether
  this is desirable or despicable. Before judging an issue like this,
  please consider the market forces at work; the point is that dubbing
  costs more than mere subtitles. Why do they do it anyway, then?
  Obviously there is a sizable and steady demand which absorbs the added
  cost!  If you feel that dubbing should be abolished, then, please,
  also provide an insight in how you believe this presently existing
  preference can be redirected! 1996-03



  14.2.2.  Contacts


  Producer's Masterguide <http://www.producers.masterguide.com> is an
  international production manual for film, broadcast-tv, commercials,
  videotape & cable industries since 1980.

  email producers@masterguide.com 1996-03



  14.3.  Mail Ordering

  14.3.1.  Audio / Music

  Some places where to get a hold of the latest from the charts; (did
  you know that modern match makers hold as an utmost important
  compatibilty criterion what the couple thinks about Volksmusik?)


  o  Euroexport Intl Music Mktg; Austin, TX, USA; +1-800-872-2966 1996-1

  o  `See the entry' on Der Buchwurm in the Books section.  1996-01


  14.3.2.  Video Tapes

  For conversion of videotapes (NTSC <-> PAL) see subject `Audio /
  Video Tapes'


  o  German Language Video Center,

     7625-27 Pendleton Pike, Indianapolis, Indiana 46226, tel
     +1(317)547-1257


     Free catalogue; hundreds of movies; prompt and courteous service.
     The movies cost US$10.50 to rent for 30 days (includes shipping
     time to and from  you, so it's realistically about 2 1/2 weeks),
     with a US$20 initial deposit (refundable when you decide you don't
     want to rent any more videos from them).  1995-3



  o  The Olivia and Hill Press,

     PO Box 7396, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48107, tel +1(313)663-0235, fax
     +1(313)663-6590


     Selection of German-language cassette recordings of novels, plays,
     and radio plays, e.g. Duerrenmatt's Der Richter und sein Henker.
     Free catalogue.


  o  Schau ins Land,

     PO Box 158067, Nashville, TN 37215-8067, tel +1(800)824-0829


     Monthly audio magazine of news, stories, music, etc. Comes with a
     written transcription including a vocabulary glossary.  Approx.
     US$120/yr. in the US.






  15.  Foreign Affairs; Consulates / Embassies

  Some basic background; lots of addresses.

  Federal Republic of Germany is abbreviated by FRG


  15.1.  General Remarks on the Embassies

  The German Consulates are very helpful in getting information about
  anything concerning Germany (travel, politics, laws ...) They're very
  thorough and supply lots of information in response to requests.
  Among other things:


  o  info about quarantine questions (importing pets)

  o  all German phonebooks available

  o  business/government directories

  o  registries of names and contact addresses of German citizens in
     foreign countries (one has to register oneself upon arrival)
     1996-12

     They also sponsor the German Information Center
     <http://langlab.uta.edu/langpages/Germany.html> (address in the
     `Newspapers section').



  For background and general information on Germany the German Embassies
  will send anyone a complimentary copy of the booklet Facts about
  Germany.


  There is a list of all embassies/consulates in the US. You get it from
  the Department of State. Its title is Foreign Consular Offices in the
  United States and it contains addresses, names of the staff and phone
  numbers. You might find the booklet in most public libraries.

  For quite a lot more embassies and consulates (etc.,) besides those
  related to the FRG, try globescope's embassy page!
  <http://www.embpage.org> 1996-10



  15.2.  Foreign Embassies in the FRG


  o  Botschaft der Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika,

     Deichmanns Aue 29, 53170 Bonn, tel +49(228)339-1/-2053, fax
     +49(228)332712, Amtsbezirk: Nordrhein-Westfalen


     There are a number of other consular instutions in the FRG...  in
     case you live elsewhere you might need to contact Berlin,
     Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg, Leibzig, or Stuttgart. Let me know --
     I'll get you the address, too.


  o  Konsulat der Ungarischen Republik General-Vollmann-Strasse 2, 8????
     Muenchen, +49(89)911032, 1997-06

  o  Die Botschaft des Staates Israel in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland,

     Simrockalle 2, 53173 Bonn, tel +49(228)823-0, fax +49(228)361916,
     fax +49(228)356093, email botschaft@israel.de


     Generalkonsulat des Staates Israel in Berlin,

     Schinkelstrasse 10, 14193 Berlin, tel +49(30)893220-3/-4/-5, fax
     +49(30)8928908, email konsulat@israel.de 1995-11


  o  Botschaft von Singapur,

     Suedstr.133, 53175 Bonn, tel +49(228)9510314 1996-11





  15.3.  Embassies and Consulates General of the FRG abroad


  o  Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany 4645 Reservoir Road,
     N.W., Washington, DC 2007-1998 USA, tel +1(202)298-8140, fax
     +1(202)298-4249 and 333-8506

     Konsularischer Amtsbezirk: District of Columbia, Delaware,
     Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia


     Honorary Consuls to the USA ... are listed separately.
     <http://www.physics.purdue.edu/~vogelges/honorarkonsuln.html>


     Consulates General of the FRG

  o  Marquis Two Tower, Suite 901, 285 Peachtree Center Avenue, N.E.,
     Atlanta GA 30303-1221 USA, tel +1(404)659-4760 to -47621-5142, fax
     +1(404)659-1280

     Amtsbezirk: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, South
     Carolina, Tennessee


  o  Three Copley Place, Suite 500 Boston, MA 021116 USA tel
     +1(617)536-8172 fax +1(617)536-8573

     Amtsbezirk: Connecticut (except Fairfield County), Maine,
     Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont


  o  676 North Michigan Avenue, Suite 3200 Chicago, IL 60611 USA tel
     +1(312)580-1199 fax +1(312)580-0099

     Amtsbezirk: llinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska,
     North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin


  o  Edison Plaza, Suite 2100 660 Plaza Drive Detroit, MI 48226 USA tel
     +1(313)962-6526 fax +1(313)962-7345

     Amtsbezirk: Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio


  o  1330 Post Oak Blvd. Suite 1850 Houston, TX 77056-3018 USA tel
     +1(713)627-7770 bis 7773 fax +1(713)627-0506

     Amtsbezirk: Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas


  o  6222 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90048 USA tel
     +1(213)930-2703 fax +1(213)930-2805

     Amtsbezirk: Counties Imperial, Kern, Los Angeles, Orange,
     Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa
     Barbara und Ventura des Staates Kalifornien sowie der Staat Arizona


  o  100 N. Biscayne Boulevard Miami, FL 33132 USA tel +1(305)358-0290
     bis 92 358-19321-55481-2906 fax +1(305)358-0307

     Amtsbezirk: Florida sowie Puerto Rico und die Amerikanischen
     Jungferninseln


  o  460 Park Avenue New York, NY 10022 USA tel +1(212)308-8700 fax
     +1(212)308-3422

     Amtsbezirk: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Fairfield County
     des Staates Connecticut, Bermuda


  o  1960 Jackson Street San Francisco, CA 94109 USA tel +1(415)775-1061
     fax +1(415)775-0187

     Amtsbezirk: Kalifornien (mit Ausnahme der Counties Imperial, Kern,
     Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego San Luis
     Obispo, Santa Barbara, und Ventura), Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada,
     Utah, Wyoming sowie die amerikanischen Aussengebiete Baker-,
     Howland-, Jarvis-, Johnstoninsel, Midway- und Palmyrainsel


  o  One Union Square, Suite 2500 600 University Street Seattle, WA
     98101 USA tel +1(206)682-4312 fax +1(206)682-3724

     Amtsbezirk: Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington

  o  Deutsche Botschaft Singapur Far East Shopping Centre, 545 Orchard
     Road #14-01, Singapore 9124, tel +65-7371355, fax +65-7372653, www
     http://www.commerceasia.com/germanembassy/,

     email germany@singnet.com.sg 1996-10

  o  Konsulat der Bundesrepublik Deutschland Via Solferino 40, 20121
     Milano, Italy, tel +39(2)6554434, fax +39(2)6554213

  o  Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania Agustinas 785 Piso 7 y
     8, Casilla 9949, Santiago de Chile, tel +56(2)335031/5, fax
     +56(2)336119, Office hours: 9-12 am

  o  Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania Villanueva 1055, CC
     2979, Buenos Aires, Argentina, tel +54-(1)778-2500 1997-07

  o  Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania La Cumparsita
     1417/1435, CC 20014, Montevideo, Uruguay, tel +598-908041,
     +598-913970

  o  Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania Av. Venezuela 241, CC
     471, Asuncion, Paraguay, tel +595-24006, +595-24007

  o  Honorarkonsulat der Bundesrepublik Dtld.  Jorge Memmel 631,
     Encarnacion, Paraguay, tel +595-25567

  o  Honorarkonsulat der Bundesrepublik Deutschland 208-310 Donald
     Street, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, tel +1(204)947-0958, weekdays
     9:00-12:00

  o  Botschaft der Bundesrepublik Deutschland 23 Belgrave Square, SW1,
     London, UK, tel 071-235-5033

  15.4.  Other Foreign Affairs Institutions


     Auswaertiges Amt
        Postfach 1148, 53001 Bonn, Adenauerallee 99-103, 53113 Bonn, tel
        (0228)17-0, fax (0228)17-3402 www http://www.auswaertiges-
        amt.government.de/

     Coordinator
        Prof. Dr. Werner Weidenfeld Koordinator fuer die deutsch-
        amerikanische zwischengesellschaftliche, kultur- und
        informationspolitische Zusammenarbeit, Auswaertiges Amt,
        Postfach 1148, 53001 Bonn, tel (0228)17-26611-28701-2678, fax
        (0228)17-3402

     United States Information Agency
        German Country Affairs Offlcer 301 4th Street, S.W., Washington,
        DC 20547 USA, tel +1(202)619-5940, fax +1(202)619-6821

     Parliamentary Groups
        Deutsch-Amerikanische Parlamentariergruppe im 12. Deutschen
        Bundestag

        Referat PB 3, Sekretariat der Parlamentariergruppen, Bundeshaus,
        53113 Bonn,

        tel (0228)16-7466/3588/2444/3879, fax (0228)16-85124



        The Congressional Study Group on Germany

        Suite 422, 1755 Massachusetts Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20036
        USA,

        tel +1(202)332-3532, fax +1(202)543-7145






  16.  Goethe Institutes

  The various Goethe Institutes <http://www.goethe.de/> (English page
  <http://www.goethe.de/eindex.htm/>) are funded by the German
  government to provide an opportunity for people outside Germany to
  become acquainted with German culture and learn German. They offer:



     German classes <http://www.goethe.de/z/demindex.htm>
        of which readers of soc.culture.german report that they are
        intense but really make you learn.


     library services <http://www.goethe.de/z/30/eniindex.htm>
        that are open to all, including getting material via
        interlibrary loan or fax. They do not charge - yet - for any
        such services.


     exhibitions <http://www.goethe.de/a/deausst.htm>
        My favorite still is Vee have vays to make you laugh - German
        humor.

  This page <http://www.goethe.de/a/enwindex.htm> contains a list of all
  Gothe institutes world-wide, including websites, mailing addresses and
  everything else you need to get in touch with your friendly
  neighborhood Goethe Institut.


  17.  Educational System


       School examinations generally furnish no basis for evaluat-
       ing aptitude ... The true test of aptitude for a profession
       does not come until later in life.


  Wilhelm Conrad Roentgen (1845-1925)

  Look at the Bildungsseiten <http://www.dino-online.de/bildung.html> of
  DINO. They cover all major issues!


  17.1.  Schools

  You find many online schools at this gopher <gopher://klinfo.unix-
  ag.uni-kl.de:71/0D%20klinfo.unix-ag.uni-
  kl.de%209000%206740%20autonews> or in this WWW server.
  <http://klinfo.unix-ag.uni-kl.de:1962/klinfo.unix-ag.uni-
  kl.de/9000/6740.html> 1995-3


  Quite a lot of information about German schools
  <http://www.wiso.gwdg.de/ifbg/go2d.htm> you find at the DINO
  <http://www.wiso.gwdg.de/ifbg/go.htm> pages of the IFBG of the U
  Goettingen. 1995-11
  17.1.1.  The basic structure of the German school system


  The public schools are subject to state laws, not federal, which is
  why there are considerable differences between states. The basic
  scheme of grammar school (years 1-4), secondary schools, level 1
  (years 5-10), secondary schools, level 2 (years 11-13) is used
  throughout the country.



  The basic law gives people the right to self-fulfillment and the right
  to choose their occupation or profession, place of work, study or
  training according to their individual abilities. That is, every
  student can choose which school to attend (if she or he is fit to
  attend.) In Germany school attendance is compulsory for children of
  ages 7 to 18. At least nine years of this period they must attend a
  full-time school and then they choose either to continue the full-time
  schooling (Gymnasium) or attend a vocational school (Berufschule)
  parttime.



  Attendance at public schools is free-of-charge; textbooks and other
  supplies may also be provided (in part). By far the great majority of
  students choose public school training. There are private schools
  (notably the Waldorf schools), too. However, their number is very
  small. 1997-06



  In 1995 there were just below 10 million students in Germany -- taught
  by 670,000 teachers in 43,200 schools. 1997-06





          School type      early 1950-ies     late 1980-ies
          Hauptschule            80                32
          Realschule             7                 26
          Gymnasium              12                32
          Gesamtschule          N/A                 9


       Attendance in major German school branches (Percent) 1997-06



  17.1.2.  Vacations

  Find an overview at FU Berlin. <http://www.chemie.fu-
  berlin.de/diverse/doc/ferien.html> 1996-04


  17.1.3.  International Schools in Germany


  o  John-F-Kennedy-Schule

     Teltower Damm 87-93 14167 Berlin tel (030)8072710 fax (030)8073377


  o  International School of Duesseldorf e.V.

     Leuchtenberger Kirchweg 2 40489 Duessseldorf tel (0211)407056 fax
     (0211)4080774


  o  The Frankfurt International School

     An der Waldlust 15 61440 Oberursel tel (0617I)202-0 fax
     (06171)202-384


  o  Hamburg International School

     Internationale Schule Hamburg

     Holmbrook 20 20605 Hamburg tel (040)8830010 fax (040)8811405


  o  Europaeische Schule Karlsruhe

     Albert-Schweitzer-Strasse 1 76139 Karlsruhe-Waldtstadt tel
     (0721)683001 fax (0721)687233


  o  Europaeische Schule Muenchen

     Elise-Aulinger-Strasse 21 81739 Muenchen tel (089)6372611 fax
     (089)6378418


  o  Munich International School

     Percha-Schloss Buchhof 82319 Starnherg tel (08151)2606-0 fax
     (08151)2606-49

     1995-10




  17.1.4.  German Schools Abroad


  The first German school abroad was founded in Osorno, Chile, in 1854;
  more than 100 years old are also the schools in Lima, Athens, Buenos
  Aires and Madrid.


  The number of German schools abroad is growing over recent years.
  Currently (1996) there are a total 139 schools with 1172 foreign-
  service teachers and 83,275 pupils. These schools may be broadly
  classified into three categories: German-language, bilingual and
  local-language. They are supported with approx. 1/3 of the federal
  cultural budget for foreign countries...some 330 million DM.


  The syllabusses of German foreign schools are at least partially
  identical to those in Germany, thus providing a qualification which is
  recognized in Germany. Children of German parents, who live
  temporarily abroad, can return to Germany and start a vocational
  training program or college without further difficulties.  The
  bilingual character and bi-cultural educational objectives is of
  growing importance, too. The diplomas issued by German schools abroad
  are recognized in both countries.






                               Schools     Teachers     Pupils
                    Africa           4           24        520
                   America           5           46       1996
            Asia/Australia          20           92       3230
                    Europe          13          116       3252


              German-language: German educational objective


                               Schools     Teachers     Pupils
                    Africa           7          135       5757
                   America          16          237      22615
            Asia/Australia           -            -          -
                    Europe          27          412       8195


           Bilingual: integrated teaching program; bi-cultural
  education objective

                               Schools     Teachers     Pupils
                    Africa           1            2        204
                   America          20           75      15193
            Asia/Australia           2            -        428
                    Europe          24           33      11915


               Local-language: additional German teaching;
  leads to German Diploma of Conference of Culture Ministers


  17.1.5.  Summer Schools for German Abroad

  (Actually only in the US, so far...)


  o  German Institute of German Language and Culture, Summer Sessions,
     Dept. GH, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-2010
     USA, tel +1(805)893-7053

  o  Yale Summer Institute fuer Sprachen, Yale Summer Language
     Institute, P.O.Box 2145, Yale Station, New Haven, CT 06520 USA, tel
     +1(203)432-2430, fax +1(203)432-2434

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule im Suedosten, 263 Duaer Hall, University of
     Florida, Gainesviiie, FL 32611 USA, tel +1(904)392-2101

  o  Sommerschule, in the Nation's Capital, Dept. of Germanic and Slavic
     Languages, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 USA, tel
     +1(301)405-4091

  o  Waldsee German Village, Concordia Language Villages, Moorhead, MN
     56560 USA, tel +1(218)299-4544, fax +1(218)299-3807, www
     http://www.cord.edu/dept/clv/Waldsee.html
     <http://www.cord.edu/dept/clv/Waldsee.html> 1996-11

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule Taos, University of New Mexico, Ortega Hall,
     Room 437-B, Albuquerque, NM 87131 USA, tel +1(505)277-5335, fax
     +1(505)277-9138

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule am Pazifik, Portland State Wniversity,
     P.O.Box 751, Portland, OR 97207 USA, tel +1(503)7254183, fax
     +1(503)725-4840

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule an der Millersville University, Department of
     Foreign Languages, Millersville University, Millersville, PA 17551
     USA, tel +1(717)872-3526, fax +1(717)871-2003

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule am Atlantik, Department of Languages,
     University of Rhode Island, Building 129, Independence Hall,
     Kingston, RI 02881 USA, tel +1(401)7925911, fax +1(401)7924694

  o  Deutsche Sommerschule in Middlebury, 206 Sunderland Language
     Center, Middlebury Gollege, Middlebury, VT 05753 USA, tel
     +1(802)3883711, fax +1(802)388-1253 1995-10


  17.2.  Universities

  17.2.1.  Statistics


     Total number of students in the Federal Republic of Germany
        in 1993: 1,875,200 1997-06


     Where students live. (Percentages, 1993 values)


                In their own apartments                 40
                With their parents, other relatives     21
                In appartments with other students      20
                In student halls of residence           13
                In lodgings                             6

        1997-06


     Most frequently chosen academic majors
        (1993 values)




                    Business studies           127,641
                    Law                        93,341
                    Medicine                   88,000
                    Mechanical Engineering     85,889
                    Electrical engineering     79,678
                    Economics                  67,748
                    German                     66,543
                    Computer science           45,900
                    Civil engineering          43,176
                    Biology                    41,380

        1997-06


     Number of institutions of higher education
        (1993 values)


        1997-06


     The largest student populations
        (1993 values) 1997-06





              Universities / Technical Universities      80
              Theological Colleges                       17
              Polytechnic Universities                   8
              Teachers Colleges                          8
              Art Colleges/Music Colleges                45
              Polytechnic Colleges                       127
              Civil Service Training Colleges            30



                           Berlin      150,000
                           Munich      105,000
                           Cologne     82,000

  17.2.2.  Listings, Rankings


  Listings

  The most accessible listing of the many German universities is
  probably found in The World of Learning, which should be in the
  reference section of the libraries of most universities in the English
  speaking world.  It lists Universities, faculties, departments,
  affiliated organizations, as well as academic staff with respective
  general areas of specialization (e.g. structural mechanics).  1994-3



  Rankings

  There are no rankings for German universities in the American sense of
  the word, with widely accepted institutionalized reference listings.
  Some news magazines have picked up the habit of running annual surveys
  (you figure out their models;-) The two most typically employed
  methods are inqueries on faculty level about the best other-than-your-
  own unversity (in their field of expertise) and on students level
  about the quality of their school as they perceive it. 1996-03


  17.2.3.  Studying at a German University; Exchange Programs

  Foreign students from a large number of countries who want to study
  after high school at a German university or Fachhochschule need to
  attend the Studienkolleg for two semesters and pass an examination.
  Tuition at a Studienkolleg is free.  Information about Studienkollegs
  in Germany:


  Guenther Miklitz, Studienkolleg fuer auslaendische Studierende, an der
  Universitaet Bonn, email usa000@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de 1994-11


  Although the German educational system is quite different from the US
  system (no degree until a masters equivalent etc.,) it's still
  possible to obtain a German degree with non-German background. The
  place to contact is the Auslandsamt (foreign office) of the involved
  universities.


  Usually it is easier to just go with an organized program. Especially
  since these programs usually guarantee some sort of credit transfer
  which is (depending on your home university) hard to impossible to get
  otherwise.  Some programs also include special classes (sometimes in
  English, sometimes German classes for foreigners...) which will
  otherwise not be offered -- German students are supposed to find their
  own way through the university jungle...


  The big advantage of going alone is the financial aspect. Education in
  Germany is basically free i.e. university students pay a nominal
  tuition of typically approximately US$30 a semester for their
  education (plus books, living expenses and the usual public
  transportation -- all of which amounts to an (estimated) US$600-900 a
  month, less in the eastern part of Germany.) Students in Germany
  typically live in (shared) apartments, dorm rooms are only available
  for about 3-8% of the students (these numbers being higher in the
  east). Getting a dorm room is often included in organized programs, I
  suppose it will be hard to find one, if you're on your own, but your
  can always try. (Getting a dorm room will probably save about
  US$100/month.)  1995-3


  A specific remark:


  For students of subjects related to economy the AIESEC organization
  may be a valuable pointer! In Germany you can try, e.g.,

       Deutsches Komitee der AIESEC e.V.  Subbelrather Str. 247
       50825 Koeln tel +49(221)551056


  and most universities should be able to help locate local branches.



  For more information on the Ontario/Baden-Wuerttemberg Exchange
  <http://info.queensu.ca/exchange/index.html> program send an email to
  ontbw@post.queensu.ca to

       Ontario/Baden-Wuerttemberg University Student Exchange
       Kingston Hall, Room 400 A, Queen's University, Kingston,
       Ontario, K7L 3N6, Canada; tel: +1-613-545-6924 fax:
       +1-613-545-6930

  1996-02



  A good general collection on the topics (also interesting for German
  students who want to study abroad) can be found at the gopher of U
  Kaiserslautern <gopher://klinfo.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/> 1996-04


  17.2.4.  Finding the Right One... (On-Line)

  There are several other files available:

  o  Martin Schwartz <mailto:schwartz@cs.tu-berlin.de>  maintains a list
     of all German universities, Fachhochschulen, Berufsakademien and
     other institutions of higher learning at this website
     <http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~schwartz/hochschulen.html> 1999-04

  o  Felix Holderied <http://goethe.ira.uka.de/people/felix> maintains
     a similar, more compact list
     <http://goethe.ira.uka.de/people/felix/DeutscheHochschulen.html>
     1999-04

  o  The virtual library <http://www.rz.uni-
     karlsruhe.de/Outerspace/VirtualLibrary/> at U Karlsruhe offers an
     impressive collection of pointers sorted by subject. Most of these
     point to university sources.1995-6

  o  This list <http://www.mit.edu/people/cdemello/de.html> of
     universities and the like, which by now is a bit dated, might also
     be quite useful to some folks.  1999-04 ok

  Also you should check the Zentralvergabestelle fuer Studienplaetze
  (ZVS)

       ZVS, Sonnenstrasse 171, 44137 Dortmund, Germany

  1996-02


  17.3.  Volkshochschulen

  The Volkshochschulen <http://www.vhs.de/> are evening schools open to
  everybody. For a modest fee of some amount (from around DM 20 to maybe
  DM 200; depends much on the type of course you choose) they offer
  courses to further your professional background, to prepare for taking
  the Abitur examination, or for plain pleasure and hobby interests.
  1995-11


  17.4.  Education-Relevant Addresses


     Deutsche   Forschungsgemeinschaft <http://www.dfg.de/>
        Similar to the NSF in the USA.

      Deutscher   Akademischer Austauschdienst, DAAD
        <http://www.daad.de>
        1999-04

        The addresses of the branch offices of the DAAD
        <http://www.daad.de> can be found at this website
        <http://www2.daad.de/allgemein/en/aussenstellen/index.html> .

        The DAAD is

     o  an organisation of the institutions of higher education and
        student bodies in the Federal Republic of Germany, founded in
        1925, refounded in 1950

     o  an institution for the promotion of international academic
        exchanges

     o  an intermediary for the implementation of foreign cultural and
        academic policy as well as for the educational co-operation with
        developing countries

     o  the national agency for the EU programmes ERASMUS and LINGUA and
        German information service for COMETT and TEMPUS

     o  the IAESTE National Committee for the exchange of student
        trainees

        (The above is an excerpt from http://www.geist.de/daad/info-
        E.html. ) 1996-09

        Very important for foreign students who want to study in Germany
        and also for German students who want to study in another
        country.  They also have an office in New York
        <http://www.daad.org> 1999-04

     Studienstiftung des deutschen Volkes <http://www.studiens-
        tiftung.de/>
        Mirbachstr. 7, 53173 Bonn 1, tel +49(228)354091

        An important source of scholarships for German students abroad
        and in Germany, essentially a national honors society.
        Membership is by invitation only. 1999-04  An older, inofficial
        website <http://www.rz.tu-ilmenau.de/~stusti/> with inofficial
        materials. 1997-01



     Fulbright-Kommission
        Theaterplatz 1a, PF 200555, 53177 Bonn (Bad Godesberg), Germany
        tel +49(228)363130 1995-4




     Konferenz der Kultusminister
        Postfach 22 40, 53012 Bonn

        This is the place where they decide about transferability of
        foreign academic degrees. Maybe they answer questions.  Any
        experience how helpful this address is?

     Representative of German Industry and Trade
        One Farragut Square South, Washington, DC. 20006, tel
        +1(202)347-0247










-- 
** David Lutterkort       Dept. of Computer Science     Purdue University **
** email: lutter@purdue.edu      url: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/~lutterdc/ **
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